I just tested this file exactly on the only renegade bbs I have ever found w/ the archive file menu. Can anyone tell me whether this is method works or is bullshit? Method follows: Renegade is one of the more common bbs systems being used. Being a hack itself, of Telegard, one can easily guess that there's a bug in it somewhere. A bug? That's too small a word. This has missed all of our attention... Now you will know... You can grab all the renegade data files, user data files, and the chat logs. What You Need: A Renegade Mock Setup (If you wish to see the files good A Renegade BBS To Hack (They must have the archive menu) 1) Dial your target Renegade BBS... 2) Logon.. I advise using a fake account and deleting the logs when you're done. 3) After you logon, make sure the sysop is not around. Check the messages, play some door games to make it look normal. Page the sysop to see if he's around. Note that this hack is done better at night, when the sysop is asleep. 4) When ready, goto the file menu. 5) In the file menu there is an option called "/A". This is the archive menu. This is where you will do your work on compressed files.. this is also where you will do your hacking. 6) From the archive menu, select "W", to work on a file. 7) Enter the name of the archive you wish to work on. (This can be any name, followed by the extension of the file. ".ZIP" is the best, and most systems support it. What you will be doing is adding the data files to a .zip file for later download. 8) Now you have to add files. You hit "A" to do this. When it prompts you for files, type "../../u*.dat". Next type "../../r*.dat". Finally type "../../*.log". 9) Now you have the data files and chat logs in the archive... You may now download the file which you have created... 10) Now here's how to view it. Set up a mock Renegade BBS. 11) Copy the renegade.dat to your main renegade directory and copy the user files to x:\renegade\data\, or whatever your renegade data directory is. 12) Start renegade using RENEGADE /L .. this loads it in local mode.. 13) Goto the user setup and start writing down passwords... System passwords are found in the system config section... (So you can logon as the sysop--Note that to do so you will need his/her phone number, password, and the system password. You can look at the RENEGADE.DAT file with a lister and find parts of passwords as well.) If anyone can help me out with this, I'd apreciate it. Thanks! +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | \\\/// | | -(@ @)- | | ---oOO--(_)--OOo--- | | the Center for the Study of Viral Pathology | | Support BBS | | the Omega BBS, Hingham MA | | | | http://www.tiac.net/users/alamb/owen.html | | bungalow@works.com | | "Everything counts in large amounts" | | - Depeche Mode | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+